Watkins, Thomas

Birth Name Watkins, Thomas
Gramps ID I0017
Gender male

Events

Event Date Place Description Sources
Birth between 1848-04-04 and 1850-04-05 Glascwm, Llandrindod Wells, Powys, UK   1 2 3
Residence 1871-04-02 Bwlchellan, Llanfihangel Fechan, Brecon, Powys, UK   4
Occupation 1871-04-02   General Servant 4
Residence 1872-12-17 Bethel Cottage, Llandefailog fach   5
Occupation 1872-12-17   Labourer 5
Residence 1873-06-29 Brecknockshire   6
Occupation 1873-06-29   Agricultural labourer 6
Residence 1881-04-03 2 Miles Street, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, UK   7
Occupation 1881-04-03   Ostler at Brewery 7
Residence 1883-12-04 Ynysfelin, Penderyn   8
Occupation 1883-12-04   Farm labourer 8
Residence 1891-04-05 5 High Street, Penydarren, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, UK   1
Occupation 1891-04-05   Brewery Haulier 1
Residence 1901-03-31 15 Norman Terrace, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, UK   2
Occupation 1901-03-31   Brewer's cellarman 2
Residence 1911-04-02 30A, High Street, Penydarren, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, UK   3
Occupation 1911-04-02   Municipal road-man 3
Residence 1920 2 Cromwell Street, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, UK   9

Parents

Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father Watkins, Thomas [I0081]
         Watkins, Thomas [I0017] between 1848-04-04 and 1850-04-05

Families

    Family of Watkins, Thomas and Price, Margaret [F0001]
Married Wife Price, Margaret [I0018] ( * between 1851-04-08 and 1854-04-05 + ... )
   
Event Date Place Description Sources
Marriage 1872-12-17 St Michael’s Church, Lower Chapel, Llanfihangel Fechan, Powys, UK   5
  Narrative

They did marry in the church at Llanfihangel fechan.

Thomas Watkins was able to sign his name on the certificate, but Margaret Price could not.

The witnesses were William Price (who signed) and Ann Cattrick (who made a mark). Maybe William was Margaret's borther, about 7 years older than Margaret. Who was Ann?

The certificate shows that Thomas Watkins's father was also called Thomas Watkins.

  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
Watkins, Annie [I0011]1873-06-291950-06-25
Watkins, Jane [I0022]between 1877-04-04 and 1878-04-03
Watkins, Hugh Price [I0019]between 1881-06-01 and 1881-09-30
Watkins, Edgar [I0020]1883-12-04
Watkins, Thomas William [I0021]between 1885-04-06 and 1886-04-05

Media

Narrative

Spoke only English (1891 census)

Narrative

Spoke only English (1901 census)

Narrative

A Rachel Harres is boarding with them, aged 60, in 1901.

Narrative

Thomas Watkins signed his marriage certificate in 1872 but made a mark for the birth certificate of annie in 1873.
Weird.

On the birth certificate for Aneurin Edgar in 1883, T. Watkins signed.

Narrative

Margaret Wells tells me:

Glascwm means green valley - it is 3 miles West of Newchurch, Radnor.

Thomas lists New Church as birthplace in 1871.

Narrative

Both Glascwm and Newchurch are in the Presteigne registration district.

BMD has, for Thomas Watkins birth in 1846-1850,

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1847 (>99%)
Watkins Thomas Presteign &c 26 253 Scan available - click to view
Births Mar 1848 (>99%)
WATKINS Thomas Presteigne &c 26 252 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1849 (>99%)
WATKINS Thomas Presteigne &c 26 265 Scan available - click to view
Births Dec 1850 (>99%)
Watkins Thomas Presteign &c 26 273 Scan available - click to view

Which is just four possibles. AAAAh, this is going to cost money...

Narrative

I can't find a credible Thomas Watkins in the 1861 or 1851 censuses on ancestry or fmp.
There's a possible one here:

 

1861 census transcription details for: Llansley, Newchurch
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09 Piece: 4227 Folio: 71 Page: 5

Reg. District: Presteigne Sub District: 1 Brilley
Enum. District: 5 Ecclesiastical District: St Davids
Parish: Newchurch City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Llansley, Newchurch
County: Radnorshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation,
Disability Where Born
GOODWIN, Elizabeth Head Widow F 47 1814 Farmer Of 180 Actres Employing 1 Labourer
Colva
Radnorshire
GOODWIN, James Son Unmarried M 20 1841
Newchurch
Radnorshire
GOODWIN, Emma Daughter F 14 1847
Newchurch
Radnorshire
GOODWIN, Alice Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar
Newchurch
Radnorshire
GOODWIN, Edith Daughter F 11 1850 Scholar
Newchurch
Radnorshire
GOODWIN, Edward Son M 6 1855 Scholar
Newchurch
Radnorshire
DAVIES, Sarah Sister Married F 31 1830 Dressmaker
Colva
Radnorshire
HAYWOOD, Louisa Servant Unmarried F 19 1842 General Servant
Kington
Herefordshire
WATKINS, Price Servant Unmarried M 20 1841 Carter
Newchurch
Radnorshire
WATKINS, Thomas Servant M 14 1847 Carter
Radnorshire

Pedigree

  1. Watkins, Thomas [I0081]
    1. Watkins, Thomas
      1. Price, Margaret [I0018]
        1. Watkins, Annie [I0011]
        2. Watkins, Jane [I0022]
        3. Watkins, Hugh Price [I0019]
        4. Watkins, Edgar [I0020]
        5. Watkins, Thomas William [I0021]

Ancestors

Source References

  1. Annie Watkins 1891 census [S0009]
  2. Thomas Watkins 1901 census [S0021]
  3. Thomas Watkins 1911 census [S0360]
  4. Thomas Watkins 1871 census [S0029]
  5. Thomas Watkins Margaret Price 1872 marriage certificate [S0028]
  6. Annie Watkins 1873 birth certificate [S0027]
  7. Annie Watkins 1881 census [S0010]
  8. AE Watkins birth certificate [S0035]
  9. Spring 1920 Electoral register [S0646]