Fielder, Ivor James
| Birth Name | Fielder, Ivor James |
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Fielder, Boysie
Brenda Wells says that Ivor was nicknamed Boysie. |
| Gramps ID | I0025 |
| Gender | male |
| Age at Death | 91 years, 1 month, 13 days |
Events
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| Birth | 1925-06-11 | Mothers' Hospital, Hackney | 1 2 3 | |
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| Residence | before 1932 | 13, Sewdley Street, Hackney, London, UK | 4 | |
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| Residence | before 1940 | 137 Mildenhall Road, Hackney, London | ||
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| Occupation | before 1941 | Scholar, Grocers' Company School, Uppingham | 4 | |
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| Residence | between 1940 and 1941 | 19 Gloucester gardens, Cockfosters, London, Hertfordshire, UK | 4 | |
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| Occupation | about 1941 | Costing, Imperial Tobacco. | 1 4 | |
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| Occupation | after 1941 | Flight Engineer, Lancasters, 101 Squadron | 4 | |
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Event Note
IF himself went to the Grocers' Company School at Uppingham. He started work for Imperial Tobacco at age 16 in engineering costing. He joined the RAF in WW2 and was a flight engineer, or general dogsbody IF says, in Lancaster bombers. He flew first 30 missions with 101 Squadron. This was a specialist operation which flew aircraft with a crew of 8 including a German speaker. His aircraft flew with a German jew. They intercepted radio messages to German night fighters and rebroadcast them to direct the fighters to the wrong place. Eventually the germans caught on and reacted by replacing all their ground radio operators with women. [wikipedia says: 101 Squadron Lancasters were later equipped with a top secret radio jamming system codenamed "Airborne Cigar" (ABC) operated by German-speaking members known as "special operators" commonly abbreviated to "spec ops". They sat in a curtained off area towards the rear of the aircraft and located and jammed German fighter controllers broadcasts, occasionally posing as controllers to spread disinformation. The aircraft fitted with the system were distinctive due to the two large vertical antennae rising from the middle of the fuselage. Breaking the standing operating procedure of radio silence to conduct the jamming made the aircraft highly vulnerable to being tracked and attacked, which resulted in 101 Squadron having the highest casualty rate of any squadron. [1] ] |
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| Occupation | before 1945 | Flight Engineer, Lancasters, 460 Squadron RAAF | 4 | |
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Event Note
IF then had 2 months leave, then flew 30 missions with 460 Pathfinders, under GC Edwards who also captained the Australian cricket team. [I can't find him in any list of test captains or even team members, this doesn't look right.] [I can't find a Fielder in the list of aircrew at http://www.gordonstooke.com/460squadron/sqdprsnl/index2.htm or under pilot Marks at http://www.gordonstooke.com/460squadron/crews/pilotscrews.htm, but maybe I'm mistaken.] |
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| Occupation | 1945 | Flight Engineer, Lancasters | 4 | |
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Event Note
He was then given 2 months leave again. After a few days, he received a telegram to report back. His skipper, squadron leader Johnny Marks, and Stuart, their bombardier, had been picked for a special mission, and they invited their old crew including IF to join them. They were to raid the U-boat pens at Brest. This was too far to return to the UK, so they were to fly on to Maison Blanche in North Africa. They arrived and the wheels sank into the sand! [I can't find a record of this mission but maybe it was too secret!] They had planned to return to the UK but were diverted to fly missions all over the Mediterranean, following the allied advance at the end of the war. They were based in Sicily during the battle for Monte Casino and later at Leghorn near Trieste. |
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| Medical Information | between 1945 and 1947 | Recovering from plane crash injuries | 4 | |
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Event Note
Six months after the end of the war, they were still together near Naples. Flying was in short supply. They needed to test two new engines. The two new engines blew up and had to be shut down. Marks opted to fly the aircraft over a mountain pass used by DC-3 transports. There was a problem with the hydraulics and IF was dispatched to fix it. He remembers standing in the aircraft and seeing the tail hit the trees, then nothing until he came round on the ground, on fire. He walked and put the fire out in a stream. All the others on the aircraft died, one surviving a couple of hours. It had failed to clear the pass by a few feet. IF had a punctured lung and broken fingers. IF was found by a hunting party of Italians after 3 days on the mountain. He was taken down first to Salupo [?] village, then a hospital in Benevento, then Caserta, then a British hospital in Naples, travelling on foot and in a jeep. In Naples, he was diagnosed with a broken back and put in a whole body plaster cast. He had pneumonia while still in the cast. He weighed 10 stones 2 pounds when they put the cast on and 6 stones when they took the cast off for the last time 2 years later. IF was convalescing on Capri when the was to be flown home (he didn't want to go) in time for Christmas 1945. A DC-6 hospital plane started in India and picked him up from Italy. It was flying in bad weather over Southern France when it crashed. Out of 65 people on board, only 5 survived, one of whom was IF. [I can't find this crash at http://baaa-acro.com/archives/1945-JUL-DEC.htm which is supposed to be definitive. Am I misunderstanding something here?] IF was eventually flown to Down Ampney. While there he had jaundice too. |
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| Qualification | about 1947 | Associate or Cost Works Accountancy | 4 | |
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| Occupation | after 1947 | PA to Alexander Burdett Money-Coutts, Imperial Tobacco London Cigar Factory | 4 | |
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Event Note
After recovery, IF returned to Imperial Tobacco at the London Cigar Factory. He worked at the Regent Street Polytechnic to become an Associate of Cost Works Accountancy. After a short time, he was asked by Alex Money-Coutts to be his PA, IF thinks because of his RAF experiences. Alex M-C was 2nd son of Lord Latimer and later became lord himself. [That would be Alexander Burdett Money-Coutts http://www.geocities.com/adrian_money/286.html but I don't think he became Baron Latymer] IF played doubles tennis with him, with great success, in the company tournament. All this raised IF's profile in the company, and IF went on to manage cigar production and to sell to top accounts. Later he travelled widely to analyse local factory performance, leading him to recommend many to be closed, which distressed IF. He finished as Group Purchasing Manager with a budget of £6M/year in 1982 when he retired. He bought everything for the company except tobacco. |
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| Qualification | about 1970 | Fellowship, Institue of Purchasing and Supply | 4 | |
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| Occupation | before 1982 | Group Purchasing manager, Imperial Tobacco | 4 | |
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| Retirement | 1982 | 4 | ||
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| Death | 2016-07-24 | 61 Garden Road, Hucknall, NG15 6LH | ||
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Event Note
Maureen called Emrys 2016-07-25. |
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Relation to the centre person (Watkins, Thomas) : great grandson
Parents
| Relation to main person | Name | Birth date | Death date | Relation within this family (if not by birth) |
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| Father | Fielder, Jimmy [I0023] | 1892-10-19 | between 1990-12-01 and 1990-12-31 | |
| Mother | Williams, May [I0015] | 1891-11-16 | between 1982-12-00 and 1983-03-00 | |
| Sister | Fielder, Brenda May [I0024] | 1919-10-19 | 2007-11-05 | |
| Fielder, Ivor James [I0025] | 1925-06-11 | 2016-07-24 |
Families
|   |   | Family of Fielder, Ivor James and Purvis, Peggy R [F0080] | ||||||||||||||
| Married | Wife | Purvis, Peggy R [I0236] ( * 1924-02-05 + 2010-12-07 ) | ||||||||||||||
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| Name | Birth Date | Death Date |
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| Fielder, Barry Nicholas [I0237] | 1955-11-07 | |
| Fielder, Stuart Glyn [I0238] | 1957-10-13 |
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| Marriage | 1984-10-05 | Basford Registration District | 6 | |
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| Name | Birth Date | Death Date |
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| Fielder, Ian James [I0239] | 1971-05-07 |
Media
Narrative
Ivor says that his first son, born in 1953, lived only a few days. I can't find a Fielder-Purvis birth in BMD, so maybe they didn't register the child.
Narrative
Ivor says that he visited the house taken by EMWilliams and LCWilliams at Highfields, Beeston during the war. Many people shared it as lodgers. In particular, he met one woman there who later turned out to be the wife of his boss at Imperial Tobacco. Apparently she divorced the boss and married one of the teachers from the Beeston house!
Narrative
The Photo mayandivorfielder is not them! It's actually Annie Watkins and John Williams, about 1903 or 1904. According to Ivor Fielder, in a phone call to Emrys on 13 Aug 2009. Ivor has a copy of the photo in his own collection.